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Info on (cheap) alternatives instead of bootlegsInfo on (cheap) alternatives instead of bootlegs

Chloe-tsundereChloe-tsundere2 anos atrásDiary
After seeing many topics I was quite surprised at how many users here support bootlegs, just cause theyre afraid of damage or due to money or something alike those lines of their real products.

So here are my alternatives for those problems... So the reasons above wont be reasons to turn to bootlegs.

I (personally) dont support bootleg in any way! I got some for free and use them for a future blog to show the differences, i would never buy one! But im not judging those who do, this blog is purely informative for those with a low budget or afraid items get damaged etc

There are like cheap legit dakimakuras. (Usually found on mandarake or jungle-scs) Sure you could say the fabric is different cause the cheaper ones use cheaper fabric (tho sometimes even smooth knit pops up for 5k like my mio isurugi cover on manda and some dengeki bonus dakimakueas even go to 2000 yen but those are an example of lesser fabric)
But the bootleg ones will also get damaged so what use is there? It will still get damaged plus you supported the bootleg industry. Also claims about they feel the same etc is invalid. Ok sure the older fabrics like <smooth knit and below might be pretty close sure but they are usually never the same.

How can you spot one that feels the same? And has no tag etc? Look for a bulb zipper. The bulb zippers indicate of bootleg quality (exception: tony taka covers which sadly use cheaper quality fabrics and alternatives I heard from a fellow mfc member)

If the fabric is smooth knit or 2wt and up it should be flexible. So you pull at the sides and it should "move" with bootlegs theyre usually not flexible and more sturdy. (Correct me if im wrong some bootleggers might even add the flexible thing, just basing it on my own dakis) for other fabrics and some older dakis they might be sturdy so this doesnt apply to those.

Some bootlegs got obvious bad printing quality though and it is not hard to notice. As well as the obviously too cheap pricetag which should raise flags as well.

If your purpose is to compare fabrics, many bootleggers apparantly give out free samples and it only costs you the shipping which prob isnt expensive. So that would be an option to go by instead of buying an entire daki.

Also dakimakuras usually can get washed at 40 celsius max. If youre afraid anyways or it has no label so you think it might not then you could always try handwash or handwash program on your washing machine.

Same goes for garage kits. Ok im more considerate here for sure so im not going to rant about it but just pointing out an alternative.

What I did was buying random characters i dont really care for (so if i mess them up there is no big deal) for very cheap prices. Going from 800-2500 yen each which is even cheaper than the famous site I wont mention here.

So for everybody with this problem, please just check mandarake for cheap kits :) that way you do not support the bootleg industry and achieve the same! You dont mess up one of your precious (and prob more expensive) kits this way!

For pictures you can always ask me and i can show you the differences. One of a ahum "better" made fake one and obvious fake one compared to the real deal. Sadly i cant let you touch it :( would be even better.

As for mugs and shirts, cospa ones are reaaally great quality. Ive got mugs that are 3 yrs old by now and still really good. Same for my shirt (sadly my rat bit a hole in it but that aside it was superb) so dont be afraid and just do the dishes. I wash the dishes by hand tho so im not sure how it reacts to a dishwasher..
Other brands sadly get slightly damaged but only on top, the rest stays fine. Doesnt bother me too much (ok it kind of does but i found peace in it) so with those you should be more careful :) those are often made by sega (my prime example is a taiga mug, feel free to ask a picture to show the damage (before.. and after)

I hope this helps some people who got no bad intentions when buying a fake item. Or those who just dont know how to spot one

P.s. If you got any additional alternatives, feel free to share and I will add it

Fanart issue: please read this blog
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To determine if it is ok or not. All credits to coffee pointing it out
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Coffee
Money matter to a lot of people.
One of the most common arguments I've heard from people buying bootlegs is that it's cheaper.
They can't afford or don't want to pay what an item actually is worth if they know they can get it cheaper.
In the case of figures, most people have told me they simply just want to have a figure of their favorite character, and in most cases a bootleg have been the cheapest and easiest to get choice.
I don't like bootlegs and I don't support the industry, and I've probably written this same thing here way too many times by now.
I've tried to inform people at conventions about bootlegs so I've sort of learned the most common excuses.
Some people are simply unaware that they've bough a bootleg item and some don't care.

I also think it's funny how some bootlegs will always be ok.
It's a sort of "It's ok as long as it's not my hobby" mindset.
Some would never buy a bootleg figure, but has no problem buying, for example, a bootleg or knock-off t-shirts.
How many here who care about bootleg anime merchandise would actually care if people bought for example a bootleg designer bag.

It's the same with printing things.
I know plenty of people who wouldn't mind using official, or in some cases fan art, and print it as a custom car sticker, t-shirt, dakimakura, etc.
This is also in a way bootlegging since you're paying someone else to use yet another person's work.

I could go on forever, but I've learned that what people spend their money on is their business.
You can always try to inform people, but most will still not care.
2 anos atrás
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Chloe-tsundere The louise otaku
WaifuCollector (2 anos atrás) #3964991only thing i can't live is to buy bootleg figure again. i got duped a few times before because i was a noob back then. as for accessories & clothes, i can live with bootlegs

Yeah with bootleg figures it is quite obvious indeed.. So i didnt mention it here cause most people know about them and how to spot them. But could always add it if that is not the case,

I only bought chobits bootleg trading figures but ik not sure if they were cause the real ones were crappy too XD haha and i was a starter and young
2 anos atrás
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only thing i can't live is to buy bootleg figure again. i got duped a few times before because i was a noob back then. as for accessories & clothes, i can live with bootlegs
2 anos atrás
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I personally think to each their own. I prefer authentic items, but I know of items that I could spend a lifetime hunting, yet never get any closer to it. (Thinks of a certain Tamamo daki)
I know it exists, where it was distributed and I've hunted it for it ever since. I have not come across it anywhere and I personally think I'll never will. Availibility matters, not saying anything about how nice it is to customize stuff. I buy Cospa mugs, because I like them, yet I can to a local shop, Hema, use the same picture from the internet abd create a similar cup.
And this service is not just restricted to cups. I don't use this service, because Cospa supplies my in a more gratifying legal fashion.

I have purchased bootleg mousepads from a friend to support his fansub. I don't mind, I loved the cause and the quality of the items is great. And yes, 100% chinese bootleg.

On the one hand I want to support the industry as much as possible on the other hands I want to be able to get certain stuff. I have a lot of doujin art, note none of this support the original creators.

In short, as long as shops offer a custimization service people will use it.
People will use the things they love, legal or illegal.
As long as people want this, others will sell these kind of items, with or without permission.
Similar to how fansubs operate, which brought many of use in to anime.


So what is the limit; do we tolerate small stuff with little profits, because of their small significance or big items which are not affordable to some poorer masses. I think that is for us individually to decide.

It is impossible to completely get rids of bootlegs, for the same reason that you can't stop people from distributing liscenced media. Too many people participate in it and it is easy for people to join the movement.

In an ideal world we all would have access to the same wealth, riches and resources.
Halas, the world is not ideal. Even in science, a very open-sharing community people insist on not sharing certain data, whether it is to ensure their livelyhood or w/e.

I love the anti-bootleg movement and I will endorse it, but realistically speaking;
We are fighting a lost war from the get-go. The only people that can really make a difference are the owners of the original. It is up to them; how much do they care and how much efoort and resources they wish to commit to protecting their property.
2 anos atrás
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I love the theme of this discussion as it reflects the society itself (since always and forever). After all humans can hold and experiment all kind of feelings and needs. Living in community is always using the potential of others mutually, for the good or worst. Being it your art, work power, technics, body prowess or whatever, even your laziness is something others take profit of. Focusing in the topic of the article art was always something copied since ancient history, as its property is very hard to protect after it becomes public. I remember I could buy famous painting copies at the supermarket without it being called bad or good, its simple an inferior quality copy made for popular consumption. Certainly most people who bought the copy would love the original one, but that's not possible. Certainly the economic exploitation improved quite a lot over the years, so the owners of any property have been more careful when sharing their work, as they may want to have a better profit from such hard work, and mostly they certainly deserve their well-earned reward. But enough, let me put it simple: For the customer the important things are few: quality, price, availability and usefulness. So its up to the person's reality how they'll evaluate such options. I like quality so mostly I refuse bootlegs. If I see a very nice quality bootleg I'll not have shame to buy it, as long I know what is it beforehand. I've bought original goods that had me very mad in the end, because they promised something and sold me other, like this figure ITEM #15677. I felt like i received an original good with the same thing people hate about bootleg: being deceived.
2 anos atrás
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Chloe-tsundere The louise otaku
ChunChun (2 anos atrás) #3946704I think a lot of the people here who have posted have a point (when it comes to people buying bootlegs).
To me, I think that a lot of people buy bootlegs because they are cheap (and not all of them are bad-looking). I mean, this hobby is very expensive, and of course not everyone is going to have the money to buy a 10000 Yen figure.
To be honest, I think that is a pretty valid reason (although I also do not support bootlegs), because if you don't have the money, then this hobby is not going to be a priority, but yet at the same time people want to indulge in it, so bootleg is the easiest option for them.
I don't know if this makes sense (I just woke up xD) but that's what I think.


The reason i made this blog is for exactly those eho are on a budget.. ^^" it is a valid reason but there are alternatives :)
2 anos atrás
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I think a lot of the people here who have posted have a point (when it comes to people buying bootlegs).
To me, I think that a lot of people buy bootlegs because they are cheap (and not all of them are bad-looking). I mean, this hobby is very expensive, and of course not everyone is going to have the money to buy a 10000 Yen figure.
To be honest, I think that is a pretty valid reason (although I also do not support bootlegs), because if you don't have the money, then this hobby is not going to be a priority, but yet at the same time people want to indulge in it, so bootleg is the easiest option for them.
I don't know if this makes sense (I just woke up xD) but that's what I think.
2 anos atrás
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Chloe-tsundere (2 anos atrás) #3942769Np, my pleasure ^_^ !
So the phrasing in my blog is hopefully better now. I appreciate the feedback before people do get offended
Chloe-tsundere (2 anos atrás) #3942769Np, my pleasure ^_^ !
So the phrasing in my blog is hopefully better now. I appreciate the feedback before people do get offended


Yes, it does sound better now.^^
2 anos atrás
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Chloe-tsundere The louise otaku
Broetchen (2 anos atrás) #3942669No it's fine. I'm not offended.
Thanks for taking the time to point out alternatives!


Np, my pleasure ^_^ !

So the phrasing in my blog is hopefully better now. I appreciate the feedback before people do get offended
2 anos atrás
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Chloe-tsundere (2 anos atrás) #3942329Yeah editted my post ^^ read that later on.
And i also editted the blog so people wont misunderstand. Let me know if it is written better this way? I dont want to offend anyone here



No it's fine. I'm not offended.
Thanks for taking the time to point out alternatives!
2 anos atrás
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Chloe-tsundere The louise otaku
Broetchen (2 anos atrás) #3942221I'm sorry. I didn't mean that you lectured other people. And as I said I think it's great that you and other users inform about this just to make people aware.
I meant it in regards of your wording "So you got no reason to turn to bootlegs" and "Don't support bootlegs in any way". Like peopple are trying to find excuses.
Maybe it's just me reading it the wrong way. I'm not criticising just wanted to point it out.


Yeah editted my post ^^ read that later on.

And i also editted the blog so people wont misunderstand. Let me know if it is written better this way? I dont want to offend anyone here
2 anos atrás
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